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Response to The Absolute by Bro. Ty Rains (a fellow minister)
The following is in response to the sermon preached by Brother Donny Reagan in regards to statements made by Joseph Branham.

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January 22, 2008
By Bro. Ty M. Rains

Greetings in the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ! In Defence of the WORD, I Believe it speaks For Itself, And may The Holy Spirit Quicken it to all who read Prayerfully With an open Heart. According to the Authority of the Infalliblillity of the Written And Spoken Word Given by The Lord Himself.

(Please note that Brother Branham said the word "Prophet stumbles the peolpe" I Trust you still see that a Prophet is still part of the Minisrty of Ephesians Four, That make up the  Five Offices. May God Open The Bretheren's Eye's! Recognize and respect that office!) Here is Just a few things in a Abundant supply of Spiritual food in Due Season.

May God Bless And help us All, your Brother in Christ. Bro. T. Rains (a fellow minister), I Believe It's All God! Or None God! And Stand With His Prophets! All else is False.

All Quotations of  William Branham are from  the Message Software The Table.

Please further study these messages in their entirety.


197 Manasses can't take his land. I can't have a healing service when half of the... When the--I go out there and preach the baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ, and the--and the trinitarian brethren saying, "Oh, he's old Jesus Only." And I can't go over here and have Divine healing when half of them says, "Divine healings all right."

And a lot of them enjoy the miracles of the Lord and say, "Well, I believe Brother Branham's a prophet, but let me tell you something. As long as the Spirit is on him, and he's discerning, he's the Lord's servant. But his teaching is rotten. It's no good." Whoever heard of such tommyrot? It's either of God or it isn't of God. That's right. It's either all God or none God. That's the way it is.


11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;


12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:


13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:



Now, what does He do? He works through individuals as He has called. "God has set (not the church has set), but God has set in the church: first, apostles; second, prophets; teachers; evangelists." All kinds of gifts God has placed in the church for the perfecting, or drawing together



E-14 Somehow, when I was in our church. Many of you sprinkle them in baptism, infant baptism; that's all right. We try to follow the Bible. Jesus picked up little children and blessed them. We dedicate them. And in dedication of the little boy at the altar, somehow, I was inspired to say, "Joseph, thou art God's prophet." And maybe when I leave, I pray that a double portion of the Spirit will come upon Joseph for the age to come, if there is one.


219 And the other night in the vision, there she come running to me. She said, "My blessed brother," and threw her arms around me. Oh, oh, brother, sister, it's changed me. I can never be the same no more. It's so real. It's just--it's just as real as I'm looking at you, just that real. So there's no fear. I may die before the night's over.

I want to raise my little boy back there, Joseph. I want to see him in the pulpit, when I can take this Bible... When I get to a place I see Joseph in the pulpit preaching as a--as a young man filled with the Holy Ghost, anointed with the Spirit of God upon him... And I believe he'll be a prophet. The day when I--when I-when I saw him six years before he was born, you remember me telling you he was coming. Remember when I caught him right there at the side of the altar, not knowing what I was saying, dedicating babies, I said, "Joseph, thou art a prophet."


E-72 Friend, death does not change a man; it just changes your dwelling place. I've got a wife, very sweet wife, setting right there. I've got three little children, tw--two little girls and a little boy, and Billy Paul. I want to live for them. But my first purpose is live for Christ, for my ministry.

The second, I'd like to live long enough that I could see my little Joseph setting there become a minister; take the spirit that I shall leave him. May my spirit come upon him. When I dedicated him to God, standing there in his mother's arms... I don't know, there's ten or fifteen babies.

When I picked him up, the Spirit caught me and said, "Joseph, my son, you are a prophet." God, let my spirit come in a double portion on my son.



219 I want you to notice the symbols of Christ also in the Bible and here on earth. On the earth He was a prophet. Do you believe that? A prophet is the Word. We know that. The word "prophet" means "a Divine interpreter of the Word." The Divine Word is wrote, and the prophet has the Divine Spirit of God within him. And, you know, the prophet in the Old Testament was called "god." How many knew that?

Jesus said, "If they called them gods... Isn't it written in your law, they are--'You are gods'? And if they called them gods, who the Word of God came to (the prophet), how will you condemn Me when I say I'm the Son of God?"


221 Because he was called "god," because he packed within him the Word of God, THUS SAITH THE LORD. Therefore, the word "prophet" means a... His--his interpretation isn't to be mingled with. See? If the God... He says, "If there be one among you who's spiritual, a prophet, I the Lord will speak to him. What he says comes to pass, then hear him because I'm with him. But if it doesn't come to pass, then don't hear him; I haven't sent him. That's the way you know it. And then (You see?), the Divine interpretation of the Word has to coincide with this last revelation to the church.

He's God, the Almighty. On earth He was a prophet, which is a eagle. How many know that a prophet is considered an eagle?


234 Now, influenced by creeds and ecumenical councils, the Word, the real Word of the season of that age was ignored, because they had a lot of emotion. But David, the anointed king... He was king, but he was anointed king. You say, "I'm a minister, anointed." Then stay a minister, don't try to be a prophet. See? If you're evangelist, stay evangelist.

235 Remember Uzziah, in the days of Isaiah, the young king... the young prophet. Uzziah was a great man, anointed man, God blessed him; blessed hisself. Yeah, I preached on that to you here one time. And one day he got so highly up till he thought he could just take the office of a priest, and he took the... finally went in before the Lord, and the... them priests told him, "Don't do that, Uzziah!" But he got exalted. The prophet couldn't tell him nothing. The priests knowed their order, they was keeping their order, he said, "That's not your order, Uzziah. Don't do, that!"


236 Well, he made them "Shut up!" And he went with the--with the fire, in to offer, take a priest's job; he was anointed king, not a priest. And those priests was trying to tell him, "You're a wonderful king, you're anointed, God has blessed us now; but you're a king, not a priest."

237 And you pastors shouldn't never tell a prophet what to do, or you evangelists tell a pastor. See, each one has his office if it is perfectly identified.

238 So he went in with the fire, and was stricken down with leprosy and died.


E-27 I don't care how rotten the world is, how rotten our country is, our nation is, our people are, prayer changes things. But we're not interested in prayer meeting no more. We got so many other things we have to do, so we think.

And then, not only that, was that race court condemned, but it also was drawed up that they could not have in the state of Arkansas, nothing like that any more for years and years to come. Why? Because the people that are called by His Name assembled themselves together and prayed.

Oh, what we need today is a calling together, a getting ready, and not depending on the preacher; but you, as an individual before God, make yourself ready for the coming of the Lord to escape all this corruption. No matter what they call you, and what action they take, that doesn't change God one bit. God will do it just the same. He's depending and waiting on us. Oh, my.


E-28 Some people say, "Well, I go to church on Sunday morning. I listen to our pastor, which is a fine preacher."

That's good. I appreciate that in you, or the America, the world, whoever it is. But it takes more than a good message from the pulpit. It takes your life. It takes you to get ready. In Revelations the 19th chapter and the 7th verse the Bible said that, speaking of the bride of Christ, "She has made herself ready." She made herself ready. And you, as a member of this bride, you've got to make yourself ready.


E-29 Sometime ago, a minister was preaching. And--and there was a man who'd been attending his church for a, oh, quite a lengthy time. And he came that morning up to the altar, and he said, "Pastor, I now wish to give my testimony and my surrender to the Lord Jesus, which I have done last night."

And the Pastor said, "Well, I am sure glad to hear about that, John, to know that you have decided to finally come and give yourself to the Lord, because we don't want to hurt your feelings, but we know that you had been very wicked. And we know you have mistreated your family. You gambled away your money, and you drank it up, and lived a horrible life; and your family went without. And it gives my heart joy this morning to know that you have come forward now and going to surrender yourself to the Lord Jesus to become a different person, to serve Him."

He said, "Thank you, pastor."

He said, "Then just what... I want to ask you something. What sermon did I preach, or what text did I use, or what song was sung in the church in the hymns that made you so decide to do this?"

And as the man looked at him in the face, with the tears running off his cheeks he said, "Pastor, it was none of your sermons, though as good as they were. It was none of the choirs singing or the specials, though as good as they were."

He said, "Then would you tell this congregation why you have made this decision?"

He said, "I worked with a man who is a Christian, and I've said everything to him. I've called him a holy-roller. I've called him a religious fanatic and everything, and it didn't bother him a bit. But he lived such a life till finally in my heart, all along, he has won a place that I want to be like that man. And that's the reason that I ask him to lead me to Christ. I wanted the Christ that he serves."


E-30 You see, God does work through the pastor to get His church ready. He works through the songs to get His church ready. And He works through you to get His church ready. If your pastor would fail and continually to fail, you'd hunt you another pastor. Quickly you would do that. If your choir didn't sing right, or your solos wasn't right, you'd say to the director, the one who has the music, "Don't let them sing no more. They just make me nervous to sing."

But what about you as an individual? How do you fail in your daily living? How do you tally up with God--what God says for you to be a shining light that sets on a hill. No one can pass that way, when around your way without knowing about Jesus. What type of life do you live? One of those types that's mean, and insulting, and aggravating, indifferent? Or can you speak of the peace and the love that you have found in Christ? She has made herself ready.


220 Shaking (See?), God don't shake that; hell will shake that when it receives it. But God shakes His Church.

One Angel come to Abraham and his group up on the mountain, and performed a miracle, discerning the thoughts that was in his heart (Is that right?) and Sarah on the inside. Where the angels that went to Sodom had thousands down there. See, the shaking comes in the little group. You seen it, Joseph. You seen Chicago get its last call. That's right. And God honored you, done just exactly what He said.


222 Getting the Bride ready, that's what it is. Now we're going to end right here by saying this. The end-time message is to get the Bride ready and prepared for the rapture. What can it do? According to Malachi 4, is bring them back to the faith that was once delivered to the saints: bring them back to the faith of the fathers, the Pentecostal part, in the restoration time. "I will restore, saith the Lord." That's real event--end-time evangelism.




What Bro. Joseph Wrote Concerning this issue Himself

                                                            Excerpt from Voice of God Rec. Web Site Under Catch the Vision June of 2004


Glad You Asked!

There is one question that I am frequently being asked as we travel around the country, and even though it is unpleasant to have to address negative issues, I believe that there are many people who may be helped if I am able to put this misleading and hurtful rumor to rest, once and for all.

The people are being told that I am AGAINST the preaching of the Gospel and that I believe that it is wrong for people to go to church.

THIS IS NOT TRUE, but because I have always, and will always promote listening to the tapes above all else, some have wrongly assumed that I am against the God-given ministry that has been ordained for the Church, as specifically stated in Ephesians 4:11-12.

I am not against the true, God-ordained ministry, but I know that there are those who walk among us, having a genuine, Holy Spirit anointing (because the rain falls on the just and the unjust), who will attempt to lead Godís flock astray, because they are false. Theirs will be so close to the true anointing that it will be like a mirror image of the real thing.

How will you be able to recognize the right from the wrong? By listening to the Message, just as it was brought by Godís prophet. We must listen to the tapes, because "Faith cometh by hearing." At the same time, the prophet has also reminded us, "Hearing is not faith!" HEARING ONLY BRINGS THE WORD THAT PRODUCES THE FAITH. The true believer will hear it, recognize it, and act on it.

"Then, you see, you hear the Word. God reveals It to you, that It is the Truth, and, by Spirit-revealed Truth, confirms your faith to God." The Power Of God 55-1006E

Therefore, you must not only hear the Message of the Hour, but you must receive the Word of God in your heart, for every Word of God is a Seed.

Listen to the tapes; keep yourself in the right atmosphere, and if something comes along that doesnít sound exactly like the Word that youíve been feeding on, then get away from it. You can only recognize the Word if you have been feeding on the Word.

I have 100% respect for every God-ordained minister of the Gospel, and I believe that no man should disregard a call of God that is on his life. I have the privilege of working with pastors and missionaries around the world, and many have become a part of the Voice Of God Recordingsí staff.

But even though I appreciate every officer of Godís Church, that does not change the fact that men are fallible creatures. There is no need to beat around the bush about it. The Apostle Paul didnít:
"Yea, let God be true, but every man a liar." Romans 3:4, and neither did William Branham: "I let every manís word be a lie, whether it be priest, pope, whatever he might be, and Godís Word be true." The God Of This Evil Age 65-0801M

I do not believe that fallible men have the right to say that a prophet is inspired only when he speaks of major spiritual truths. I do not believe that fallible men have a right to pick and choose what seems to be true or valuable. I ask you, wouldnít it be safer just to submit to and accept and respect what Godís chosen mouthpiece has spoken?

"If God sent the messenger, and vindicated, by the signs, that he was the messenger sent from God, then itís up to them to obey this messenger. Exactly. They must obey the messenger and have respects to that messenger. Look at Joshua and Caleb; they stayed right by his side. Yes, sir. Whatever Moses was in, they was in it, too. Whether Moses was right or wrong, they stayed right with him, anyhow, see, because they knowed that was Godís messenger." Respects 61-1015E

I do know this: The Food is stored on the tapes. . .

"What Iím saying this morning, is storing Food. Storing Food, so that youíll have something to eat, so that youíll have something to feast upon. Get It on your tapes. Sit in the cool of the room. Maybe, when Iím a long ways away, youíll still remember these things are true. Sit in your room and listen. See? And this is Food, storing in, in the storehouse." The Greatest Battle Ever Fought 62-0311

. . .and if you are an eagle, your desire will be for Eagle Food.

Joseph M. Branham


Email Letter from Bro. Ty Rains

Brother Rains,
All that is fine but still Brother Donny Reagan clearly shows that Joseph is NOT saying what the Prophet said. That's what the problem is. If he speaks OPPOSITE to what his very dad William Branham said, then he contradicts the very thing he claims to stand for.
How can one prophet speak exactly opposite of what the MAJOR PROPHET has said - on the tapes ?!
If he's not against the ministry, then how comes in the Catch The Vision booklets he specializes in showing pulpits with MP3 players setting on them and the pastors just sitting in chairs?
Sorry, God chose the five fold ministry to study and PREACH. Too bad that Joseph calls that fallible. I guess that makes GOD FALLIBLE.
John C.
I CORINTHIANS 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
WHY?_ HOT.SPRINGS.AR V-20 N-8 WEDNESDAY_ 63-0626 93 God's real true way of living has never been popular. It never will be popular, for the preaching of the Gospel is foolishness to them that perish. Paul said, "I'm not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, for it's the power of God unto salvation to them that believe."

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